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Starting only in N position

 

First excuse me for not writing in German, I do understand but writing is too difficult. So please answer in German if easier.

Background

I haven’t use my A2 1.2tdi for a while so I took the car one day and it work perfect. I parked the car and when I should start again after 2 hours I couldn’t start. Battery Ok. I tried to start with gearshift in N position but without success. I disconnected the battery for 10-20 sec but no change. I had to take the car home on a trailer.

I went for holiday for one week and when I came back I tried to start the car, it started but only in N position of the gearlever!

I read out failure codes , many failure codes but none on the gearbox. I deleted all failure codes and tested again .(The battery have been flat so many codes where related to that)

These failures codes remains.

Hope you can read have, translated the codes that I think is relevant from Swedish.

More background

I repaired the” gearbox control” some month ago, hydraulic oil leakage in , play in “gate control arm” after that I made a “Basic setting “ of the gearbox.

Only failure that I know of except “staring just I N” is “Oil temp/level” sensor (G266)

 

Here I hope for some help

-Why start only I N position

-Because of the failure codes “Intermittent erors” ?

-Some kind of safety function in the software of the gearbox ECU when there are failure codes saved related to gearbox

-Will a new basic setting help ?

-Any idea why intermittent errors ?

- Where to search? Connector error?

 

-Other reason(s) ?

 

BR/MFG

/Kurt Myhr

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Hallo Kurt,

 

mein Schwedisch ist nicht so gut daher meine Antwort in deutsch....

 

schaue mal in diese beiden Threads...es waren unterschiedliche Ursachen..

 

A2 1,2L startet nur in N (mit Auflösung)

 

Starten nur in Position N möglich

 

schreibst du bitte noch wieviel Kilometer dein 1.2er schon hat...

und ob du regelmäßig (alle 30.000Km) eine Getriebegrundeinstellung gemacht hast.

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Hallo "Karat 21"

It seems that I have to take away the gearbox and check the "Führungshülse".

I read through the "startet nur in N (mit auflösungen). Probably I have the same problem and than it is logical that the cars starts in N but not in S/P

 

/Kurt

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Hallo

In my first post in this subject an attachment with a log fil (Reda out of failure codes was missing.

I think I have a good clue re "startet nur N".

Here under the log file.

Any idea where to search for the "intermittent errors" ?

 

Log File ( see translation to English)

Onsdag,28,Mars,2012,12:30:50:18143

VCDS version: AER 10.6.4

Dataversion: 20110418

 

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Chassityp: 8Z - Audi A2 00>

Skanna: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 18 37 45 46 56 57 75 76 77

 

VIN: WAUZZZ8Z42N018234 Mätarställning: 229170km

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Adress 01: Motor Labels: Textfilsfel!

Artikelnr: 045 906 019 D

Komponent: 1,2l R3 EDC 0001DS 1452

Kodning: 00005

Verkstad #: WSC 02154

VCID: 162664975817

WAUZZZ8Z42N018234 AUZ7Z0A1998696

1 fel funnet:

18062 - Läs av felminnet för: kombiinstrumentet 18062-Read failure memory : Combine instrument

P1654 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent fel Intermittent error

Readiness: 0 0 X X X

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Adress 02: Automatväxel Labels: saknas

Artikelnr: 6N0 927 735 D

Komponent: DS085 Getriebe 3081

Kodning: 00000

Verkstad #: WSC 00000

VCID: 397C8F2B09C9

Ingen felkod funnen. No failure codes

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Adress 03: Bromselektronik Labels: 8Z0-907-379-MK60.lbl Brake electronics

Artikelnr: 8Z0 907 379 C

Komponent: ESP FRONT MK60 0101

Kodning: 0019474

Verkstad #: WSC 02154 785 00200

VCID: 489AFAEF4223

Ingen felkod funnen. No failure codes

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Adress 08: Klimatanläggning Labels: saknas

Artikelnr: 8Z0 820 043 D

Komponent: A2-KLIMAVOLLAUTOMAT 0510

VCID: 377889133FDD

8 Funna fel: 8 failures identified

00710 - Ställmotor för defrosterspjäll (V107) 00710- Acutator for def-flap

41-10 - Blockerad eller ingen spänningsmatning - Intermittent fel

41-10 Blocked or no voltage supply -intermittent error

01272 - Ställmotor för centralspjäll (V70)

41-10 - Blockerad eller ingen spänningsmatning - Intermittent fel

01271 - Ställmotor för temperaturspjäll (V68)

41-10 - Blockerad eller ingen spänningsmatning - Intermittent fel

00601 - Potentiometer-ställmotor för centralspjäll (G112)

30-10 - Avbrott eller kortsluten till plus - Intermittent fel

00600 - Potentiometer-ställmotor för temperaturspjäll (G92)

30-10 - Avbrott eller kortsluten till plus - Intermittent fel

00819 - Högtryckgivare (G65)

29-10 - kortslutning till jord - Intermittent fel

00818 - Givare för utströmningstemperatur förångare (G263)

30-00 - Avbrott eller kortsluten till plus

01273 - Friskluftsfläkt (V2)

17-10 - Kontrollavvikelse - Intermittent fel

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Adress 15: Krockkuddar Labels: 8Z0-959-655.lbl

Artikelnr: 8Z0 959 655 E

Komponent: Airbag Front+Seite 5005

Kodning: 00102

Verkstad #: WSC 02152

VCID: 4E96CCF7A047

Ingen felkod funnen. No failure codes

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Adress 17: Instrument Labels: 8Z0-920-xxx-17.lbl

Artikelnr: 8Z0 920 930 Q

Komponent: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D06

Kodning: 01135

Verkstad #: WSC 40350

VCID: 4A9EC0E75C2F

WAUZZZ8Z42N018234 AUZ7Z0A1998696

5 Funna fel:

01176 - Nyckel

07-10 - Signal för låg - Intermittent fel

01314 - Motorstyrdon

49-10 - Ingen kommunikation - Intermittent fel

01315 - Växellådstyrdon

49-10 - Ingen kommunikation - Intermittent fel

01309 - Styrdon för styrservo (J500)

49-10 - Ingen kommunikation - Intermittent fel

00562 - Givare för oljenivå-/temperatur (G266)

29-00 - kortslutning till jord

01176-Key

07-10 signal low -intermittent error

01314- Engine ECU

49-10-no communication-intermittent error

01315-Gearbox ECU

49-10-no communication-intermittent error

01309 Power acc stearing ECU

49-10-no communication-intermittent error

00562 Senosr oil level /Temp (G266)

29-00 Shorts curcuit to ground

 

 

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Adress 46: Komfortcentral Labels: saknas

Artikelnr: 8Z0 959 433 M

Komponent: Komfortgerát T05 0615

Kodning: 06720

Verkstad #: WSC 02154

VCID: 50AAD28FBA73

Artikelnr: 8Z1959801

Komponent: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0001

Artikelnr: 8Z1959802

Komponent: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0001

5 Funna fel:

01330 - Centralstyrdon för komfortsystem (J393)

53-10 - Matningsspänning för liten - Intermittent fel

01366 - öppning på grund av krocksignal

36-10 - Avbrott - Intermittent fel

01331 - Dörrstyrdon förarsidan (J386)

49-10 - Ingen kommunikation - Intermittent fel

01559 - Förardörr

37-10 - Felaktig - Intermittent fel

01560 - Passagerardörr

37-10 - Felaktig - Intermittent fel

53-10 Voltage to low- intermitten error

01366- open as conseues of chrasch signal

0331-Door ECU driverdoor

49-10-No communication- Intermittent error

01559-Driver door

37-10- Failure- Intermittent error

01560 Passager door

37-10- Failure- Intermittent error

Slut --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Hallo

....intermittent error

 

Ich habe probleme mit kalte lötungen am kombiinstrument gehabt.

Macht sinn für mich (dich :-), als das kombiinstrument das "gateway/central" für alle andre module sind. Dafür alle die verschiedene modul-fehler im fehler log.

 

Kupplung Führungshülse is nicht mein erster wahl, als genau diese fehler, nicht immer im fehler log auftreten (selbst gerprüft).

 

Gruss aus Kopenhagen, DK.

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  • 2 months later...

Help no movement of “gangsteller” !!

Background

At last I decide to take away the gearbox to change the ”guide for the clutch bearing” as I had just “start in N” and yes it was broken.

Changed clutch ,bearing, and “guide”.(fuhrungshulse)

Put the gearbox back filled the hydraulic oil , connected the battery.

Hydraulic oil was coming out from the “gangsteller” where the gasket is !! Haven’t happened before !! Disconnected the battery and check , tightened the screws on the “gansteller”. Connected the battery ,still leaking but suddenly the leak stopped! Tried to do a basic setting but no movement of the “gangsteller” !!

Took the” gangsteller away and changed the gasket.

Still no movment on the “gangsteller”, Clutch working so hydraulic pressure ok.

On can here the solenoid vales are working during “basic setting” but “gansteller “doesn’t move.

Checked all measuring block and found no failure.

WHY ?

-Dirt in the hydraulic circuit ?

-Other reason ?

BR/MFG

Kurt Myhr

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